Nov 14, 2018 (Edited) My 9 year old son shoots a .300 blackout. I think its only benefit is that it functions better in an AR platform than 7.6239, has more bullet than 5.56, while still using the same hardware except the barrell. I created a 25 yard adjusted zero target for the 36 yardzero based off of a specific set of specs. MacII, your writing reminds me of Patrick E. McManus, a writer for "Field & Stream" years ago. While 5.5645 is not, in my opinion, a good defensive (or military) round, inside 100 yds (the maximum practical range Id use a defensive carbine on my property), .300BLK leaves a big enough hole and packs enough punch to get the job done. The numbers on the side are adjustments for a .5 MOA sight. With this being said, your impacts will not hit where you are aiming. Wish I had either old Springfield now. And well trained snipers for reaching way out if tactical situations require it for advantage. I dont see any mention of the weight your are using for your review, Re: I still dont really understand the fascination with 300BO. Even with a 50/200 zero, your MPBR isnt 200-yards. To better understand MPBR, we need to talk about ballistics and how a round flies through the air. I'm shooting 125 grain bullets around 1800 fps. Most folks can find 36 yards to fire. Theresa problem though, the majority of shooters do not have regular access to a gun range where they can get much distance outside of 25 yards. -Bill Wilson. It uses both unmodified AR-15 pattern mags and a standard 5.56/.223 bolt, meaning that Ill be able to change calibers in about 2 minutes, by just swapping barrels. 200 yard zero keeps POI <1.5" from POA from 20 to 230 yards. Boom flop. The bottom hash mark of a 68 MOA ring reticle from the EOTECH helps by providing a holdover of 2.5 inches above the intended point of impact at about 5 yard point blank distance.". [emailprotected]. This happened twice and i didnt find the bullet as i neglected to bring my boxes of newspaper for the backstop. And would use a 50 yard zero for the .300 blackout upper I want to . I love my 300 blackout. OLIGHT PL-2, PL2, PL II Valkyrie 1200 Lumen Rail Streamlight 69424 TLR-7A Flex 500-Lumen Streamlight 69260 TLR-1 HL 1000-Lumen Weapon Light Streamlight 69400 TLR-7 Sub 500-Lumen Pistol Light OLIGHT Javelot Tac M 1000 Lumens Tactical AR-15 Basics: Understanding the Anatomy and Operation of the Rifle, 6.5 Grendel vs 5.56 Basic Things To Know. Personalize your experience. I certainly have no problem hitting at 200 yds. I had always expected the rounds to be grouped around -1.9 below aim point at 10 proctor said so would adjust for that but then at 50 yards i would be off from where it should have been grouped so i would need to rezero at an actual 50. I watched a Marine with an M16A4 topped with an ACOG get in the prone and start firing. In this video I use the Caldwell Precision Tripod. Federal Premium. Typically, 50-yards, 36-yards, or 25-meters are accessible. towards your level. Its within 2 inches of point of aim all the way from 10 yards out to 200 yards. I urge you to finish what youve started here. If you zero at 50 yards, a 110 grain bullet may only drop a few inches while a 220 grain subsonic bullet will travel at half the speed and drop about 5x as much! Because the Blackout is wider, yet they tend to have similar weight, the Blackout has a lower Ballistic Coefficient than the 6.5 Grendel. (which the M.C. Reload. The what? Select what level shooter you are! Notify me of follow-up comments by email. thanks for your time guys.My son bought a 300 blk out single shot the handy rifle 1-7 twist 16 barrel.he got his suppressor after 8 months of paper work.he wants to use it for deer hunting he will be shooting at most 100 yards more so inside that.at what yardage should he sight it in at and is the 220 gr bullet the best one for him.he will be shooting subsonic.thanks again.jim and adam But it doesnt really offer the versatility of some others, and cant do everything, for example, like the .308 Winchester can. Additionally it is superior to 5.56 for hunting with supersonic (to limited distances) and fits in the mags you already have. I was a geodetic surveyor. The Trijicon is an "adjust once" design with each click representing MOA. Great article. All of your rounds should really be at least touching the faded circle. 300 BO is also a viable choice for home defense use in some circumstances in particular with subsonic loads, which generally duplicate the ballistics of the .45 ACP/.45 Auto. So, Magpul has done a great job in regards to that 300 Blackout . Much thanks for the informatin. But yeah. The 36 yard zero idea was initially introduced to the community by Shawn Ryan (Vigilance Elite) Former SEAL. THIS . This is going to be where you want your bullet impacts to be. I live on a hill top so if my 300 BLK over penetrates, how far would you think the round would travel? The U.S.M.C. The anti-metric spit-balling -- what's the point? Leghorn needs to stop being paraded about as an expert on well, just about anything firearms related. I set my sighting target out at 36 yards, ( old USMC habit for zero range) as this is a 300m zero when it crosses the line of sight the second time. That said, I come from a 5.56mm background and know very little about 300 BLK trajectories across various distances. Example: I've never seen a 36 yard range, maybe the marines own them all? 300 AAC/Blackout arose in the 2000s during GWOT out of military requirements for an individual weapon which would hit harder than the standard-issue M-4 carbine in 5.5645 NATO, but without a substantial increase in weight, or the need to issue an entirely new weapon system. 2. . Select Your Gun Type. Hey Charles! Compared to a 50 yard zero, its peak . MPBR is an interesting concept thats used widely by the United States military but it didnt come from the military. With the same ammo and everything else, but using a height above bore of 2.5 inches the POI at 10 yards is -1.9 inches below POA and the first zero intersection with LOS at 0.0 inches deviation is at 50 yards but the second intersection with LOS at 225 yards at 0.0 inches deviation. Special ops personnel also requested a cartridge which would shoot well and hit hard suppressed, including suppressed use with SBRs. Even if you're running 110-grain, you've literally doubled what 55-grain is in a magazine of weight. The Bottom Line on 300 Blackout Ammo. For a new build or new sights/red-dots I do an initial 50 yard zero at 10 yards out back with Federal American Eagle 5.56mm 55 Grain FMJ XM193BL. Actually never failed tactically in over my 3 years of this type of day in and day out action. Unless one is using a range finder can you really tell the difference between 200 meters and 200 yards when estimating the distance with the eye? . This should pretty much get you hogs (if that's what you are interested in) out to about 200 yards with fairly accurate shots. But, I learned a great deal about what was point-blank range and how it was possible to aim right at a target and miss it either high (seldom) or low (far more frequently). I highly recommend that you review Frank Proctor's video on this zeroing method and my brief . Who cares? with this same dope (just a tad high). Reset . Then every shot is a hold on COM. Astute observation! Always minimal casualties on my team. Agreed, I just got mine before the craziness so it sits having only been fired once. Most police are unlikely to find themselves in engagements beyond 200-yards. So it can be a little less precise. I thought this was great. I understand there might be the occasional exception in Texas or Arizona these days. At 200 its almost a foot and a half down. Max range to hit a man in his torso could be as far as 300-yards, but youll hit him closer to his belt buckle than his chest. Out to 274 yards with a 200-yard zero At a mere 126 yards with a 300-yard zero the trajectory is out of our allowed radius. I use.77 grainfor a truer flight, more accuracy, and more knockdown power. gear. What about my AR in .300 Blackout? Its very precise but does limit you to 200-yards. After measuring the red dot height above bore like u said and accounting for this i was able to use the 10 yard method and the discrepancies went away at 50. . So, since I already have a 5.5645 AR and .300 blk AR. I understood things that I had trouble with other descriptions. Shot the 300 BO the other day as I am dedicating this rifle to subsonic only. You could get a little more distance out of a 25 yard zero (under 1.5 inch drop at 150 yards), but then the bullet moves through a little over 3 inches of variation over 100 yards compared to 1.5 inches with the 50 yard zero. And, it all fits in your AR-15 envelop with only a barrel change. Conversely, a round fired with the same 50 yard zero with a muzzle velocity of 900fps the 190gr bullet will exhibit a 9.5 . Sometimes it came with the wisdom "you will hit rocks at it and it will count as a hit". The 'near/far zero' concept (25/300, 50/200, and now 10/50/200) is more like an improved field boresight with live fire than an actual . Many LE officers I've worked with employ 50 or 100 yard zeros but rarely have to engage beyond 25. One of the hottest new rounds to emerge in the past few years is 300 Blackout; this is a true dual-purpose intermediate sized cartridge that can be fired in both subsonic and supersonic loads. Here is the free version for andriod Andriod. 82D back then. Every time I fired it, I had blowback in my eyes and sometimes a black smudge on my forehead. That one pic of the arc and target relationship would have been better. I am big fan of the 50/200 zero in .223/5.56 and I am hoping there is something similar for the blackout round. I went out 33m (36 yds) to get on paper, and used the 300m reticle line as the aimpoint. When I hit skip, it loaded the Free Version. IIRC, the USMC M16A4 battlesight zero is a 36/300 yard setup. 2,410 ft/s. M/Sgt P.J. The sighting system on AR-15s allows us to maximize our range by aiming slightly upwards. The 6.5 Grendel is a lower to mid-power 26 caliber cartridge. The price of that app on iOS is like $12. Hes a lifelong shooter who just happened to be mediocre enough with a gun and a keyboard to combine the two and write. The 25, 50, and 100 yard zero are all within 1-2" of each other at 100 but where it really makes a difference is when you start to get out to 200-300 yards. On Apple store neither the StrelokPro nor Strelok are free. More specifically, the specialized battlesight zeroes you can use with AR-15 style rifles. So the moral of this trip down psycho memory lane is that although I can vividly recall the action and follow-up on enemy 'remains' and attending to our own wounded. My sight over bore is about 2.7 with a T1 or low power variable in a ADM Recon mount. It seems like a 1-trick pony subsonic or nothing at all. The .300 Blackout cartridge is around 40% heavier than a 9mm round fired from the MP5-SD. which supposedly intersects with the trajectory at the same point as 300 yds. A shooter can use the Second Zero on just about anything that shoots and uses an optical sight. The free ballistic calculator links were great too. As a result, the overall shot group size is around 9 inches, and holdover compensation is necessary for accurate targeting at that distance. [Email your firearms-related questions to Ask Foghorn via[emailprotected]. Anxious to find a MPBR and zero distance for the 6mm A.R.C. whats the best all around variant? , my answer is the 6.8 SPC. For example, with a red dot height above bore of the standard 2.6 inches for an AR, with Federal XM193 factory load boat tail 5.56 at 10 yards the POI is - 2.0 (not - 1.9) inches below POA with a first intersection at 50 yards of 0.0 inches deviation (which is the first zero intersection with LOS) and the second intersection with LOS at 231 yards (and not 200 yards) at 0.0 inches deviation for zero. Finishing up a .300 build (PSA lower, generic LPK, SBA3 brace, 9" BA barrel, ALG EMR V2 keymod, dead air break) tried searching and couldn't find anything on a recommended zero distance..I am specifically looking for zero recommendations on subsonic ammo only as this will likely be 100% suppressed and the suppressed subsonic is my real interest in the .300 blackout. We'll only use the information provided according to our privacy policy. Compare that to a 5.56 Ball M193 round's 55 grain bullet, which delivers a . The bullet is still rising to meet your point of aim at 36 yards, this is why the impact point is low on the target. This zero method is effective but requires a longer range to zero your rifle effectively. For better or worse, the 36 yard zero is basically a hybrid that flattens out the St. Louis Arch of a trajectory the 25 yard zero creates while still providing a decent maximum range. From my experience, a 36/300 zero will keep your 5.56 projectile inside of 5-inches from your point of aim all the way out to 300-yards. Enemy destroyed or just hit and run. No malfunctions of any type from it in the first 400 rounds. That said, always make sure to confirm your zero at the close end and at the far end if possible. It is an incredibly efficient cartridge and with the Barnes Tac-Tx an awesome killer. Thanks for breaking this down. I then bench rest check it at the range at actual 50 and 200 yards and some other distances in-between those and sure enough its within 2 inches of point of aim and dead on at 50 yards. It's just holding the sport back. At closer ranges, from 100 to 250ish, youll hit high but still within 5-inches of your zero. Not sure on fps. The bottom dot on the 0:0 axis is where the bullet would hit if you were aiming at a target 25 yards away with a 36yd zero which is approximately-.72 below your point of aim. An inclined barrel ensures the trajectory of your rounds point of impact meets your point of aim. A 125-grain OTM leaves a 16-inch barrel @ 2215 fps, with a 110-grain Hornady V-Max @ 2375 fps. So you can still effectively engage a target out to 350-yards. Full disclosure those numbers aren't 100% exact-- the near zero is actually like 24.89yds or something like that. All I am interested in doing is engaging bad guys at close range with my 1980 Colt AR-15 Sporter HBAR with the Colt 4x20 scope. However, at 300 yards, the bullet drops nearly 5 inches below the point of aim. Really good information, especially for those of us kind of new to the use of optics on our carbines and rifles. 1. At 36 yards, we're working with 0.36" per MOA. So I thank you. Calculate a dope table with whatever zero floats your boat, tape it to the butt of your rifle, or, shrink it to fit within a rifle scope lens cover or do what I do and use a wrist coach (much larger and much easier to log dope in 25 yard increments), use some form of range finding, and learn to adjust for elevation (and windage, if you have a ballistic calculator). 50/200 yard on the optic I would have to be very confident in an accurate hit at long range, and take into account the animal size as well. But the largest and most visibly distinct difference is the bolt face for 7.62x39 and .300 Blackout. At this point I think finding ammo for a 300 is more difficult than zeroing one. It's really a 50 yard/200 meter zero and not a 50 yard/200 yard MBPR, its actually a zero. Dont get crazy with caliber and barrel length, and expect the same results. All have dropped on their tracks but one and it ran 60 yards and piled up. We accidentally linked their pro version. Is the barrel line in the pics blue or red or is it inconsistent? So, the 300 Blk only matches those two huh? But the Armys method is easy to use if meters are your game. I will primarily be shooting 300 BLK subs with a suppressor. Maximum 2000 meters; Minimum 0. Knowing my bullet's MaxOrd distance, all other points before and beyond that distance will be below my PoAim and easier to calculate in my head, since I Do have time to calc and aim.. You're not really trying to use a .22 further than that for hunting, right? All that leads to why Battlesight Zeros are represented by two numbers. No I definitely dont think its ballisticlly better than ol 7.6239. Im not really seeing the appeal. Now to compare the blue line to represent subsonic rounds to the red line- big trajectory difference as one would expect. Besides, if you are really shooting out passed 200 meters, or even a hundred, and it's not a snipe or surprise ambush to the target, you shouldn't be engaged. This is different: "Subsonic eXpanding.". He could see and call the difference of a yard or two, it was impressive. Most bullets from both cartridges weigh around 125-Grains. 50 yard battle zero. Youll still be punching his clock. Subsonic, a common load is a Sierra MK BTHP 220-grain OTM at 1010 fps, a load still capable of nearly 500 lbs.feet of KE. Reloading 300 Blackout: Ruger American Ranch Rifle 300; I Am Coming Out: 308 Subsonic AR10 vs AR15 300 Blackout 200gr Hornady ELD-X . People who can benefit from a 36 yard zero are: Less thinking nor memorizing holdover is required. I was JUST wondering this today. Self defense .300 blackout with red dot @ 25 yards. Let us also consider another popular cartridge for a self-defense rifle, namely 7.62x39mm. Shot group as tight as a ~5" circle [CQB & mid range distances]. So how do we get the 36 yard zero with only 25 yards to work with? We already have an account registered for email address The hold under for that round is-.70, and if your sight sits only 1.5 above bore then you are at a -.41 with 55 grain and -.40 with 77 grain. Or 7.6239? I still dont really understand the fascination with 300BO. With those numbers, it competes with the 45-70, but only external ballistics. At most, it deviates 3-4 inches from point-of-aim and should impact at 300 yards with less than 2 inches of drop. Today we are talking about zeroing a weapon sight. We all instantly flattened out and just layed down as much full auto suppressive fire as fast as we could switch mags by holding the weapons above our bodies in the cover foliage usually with one hand sticking out only point shooting (m-16 shorty CAR-15s were great for this) to give the two M-60 gunners a couple seconds to I.D. 300 AAC Blackout is a fantastic hunting round. The Trijicon 300 AAC Blackout optic, like most other ACOGs, is a fixed power magnification design. Two good bucks and two does. Maximum 4572 meters; Minimum 0. Still not a range mos. Sometimes our fingers type faster than our brain. The last deer he got this last Saturday night was a big doe at 120 yards. Maybe, but I also find it to be highly effective and extremely versatile. Gravity is a constant companion. . My grandfather was a large animal vet (small animals were not treated, they were disposed of and replaced) and he traded treatment of a "haywire " cow for a really old cavalry carbine, saddle ring and all, along with a couple of boxes of old, lead bullet cartridges. Roughly an inch low at 25 yards. Finally, although Id use supersonic bullets (still with a suppressor) for defensive purposes, shooting subsonic suppressed would be a hoot. This amounts to less than 10%. Where can I get the mags in his pic?!?!?! What caliber should I use for hunting over 100 yards in the AR platform? . A spotter with rangefinder helps, but I still don't deviate much from POA. I started zeroing my 22s at 70 yards. However, beyond 250 and 300 yards, the bullet's trajectory drops significantly, resulting in a total shot group size of 12 inches. The 50/200 is a defensive MPBR designed for a torso of a human being. I don't see their free version on Apple anymore though, just the plus and pro versions :( Apple Link. Assuming no significant optic height over bore. Its boringly reliable and predictable from M4 and M16 rifles and their civilian equivalents. Is this the case? Doesn't matter whether it's feet, inches, yards miles, whatever the unit is, it's metric. 36/300 is my preferred. All that said, Nick may very well have a point concerning a kill at 100 plus yards. . The bottom dot on the 0:0 axis is where the bullet would hit if you were aiming at a target 25 yards away with a 36yd zero which is approximately -.72 below your point of aim. Technically, both. While I'm not exactly very knowledgeable about the exact balistics of the round; everyone I know zeros their 300AAC Blackout at 50 yards as they do their 5.56 / .223. . And again next, this -1.9 inches POI below POA Proctor and everyone else is using is for a sight height above bore of 2.5 inches for an AR and not the standard 2.6 inches for an AR and it makes a difference as does the ammo being used. Whether that's 100 yards and in or from zero to 300 yards, there are a few viable options from which you can choose. I was using the wrong height above bore and taking the -1.9 for granted. I personally prefer .270 cal and so I lean towards the 6.8 SPC because of the better long range performance, but .300 Blackout does what its supposed to do really well. THANK YOU for helping demystifying zeroing! 7.62x39 requires a much larger bolt face and this makes for a thin-walled bolt that can and will break easier. - thanks for your service and the dose of reality when the SHTF! If you're looking to practice precision marksmanship you can still use that calculator, but I'd recommend a farther-out far-zero. Most of my Blackout problems have involved Mezcal. Couple of comments: Using a 16 barrel, youd only be about 2.2 low at 200 with this zero. The Armys zero also allows you to get out to 350-yards, but you can expect a little more than 6-inches of drop. Take a look at the Best AR-15 Scopes & Optics! Environmental Status. With a scope height of 1.5 inches, the parabolic arc of the round peaks at 50 yards and returns once more to -1.5 inches at 100 yards. If you take a look at the target you will see thick gray vertical and horizontal lines that intersect at a black circle. The 300 Blackout is a rifle cartridge that's more powerful than the 5.56 when fired out of a barrel that's less than 16 inches long. So, bullets go up and then come down in an arc. But the near-parabolic trajectory of any and all bullets fired from a firearm is easily corrected by range estimation and sight adjustment. Next, your MPBR isnt actually, or may not actually be, 200 yards (although if you are within your desired area +/- that satisfies you then you could call this your MPBR). Did they just bump the price up? . It doesnt matter. Sometimes you they end up gut-shot, but within 100yds you can get a clean one-shot kill. The bullet is still rising tomeet your point of aim at 36 yards, this is why the impact point is low on the target. However, we were hunting eastern whitetail deer in the northern Michigan woods and nobody was shooting at more than about 225 yards max. The cartridge, which is also known as 7.6235, works with existing AR-15 pattern magazines, bolts and BCGs, and requires only a few barreled upper be installed upon a normal M-4 lower. This proves useful as you may not always have access to a 300-yard rifle range or even a 200-yard rifle range. When I crunched the numbers off the depiction above, for a 16in barrel, the 50 yard chart showed the far zero looked to be around 225 yards, . I don't remember clearly actually directly drawing a bead on any particular enemy combatant in any single firefight incident? I dont mean to be, well, mean. However, when it hit a deer, it left little doubt about the result. Temperature (F) Maximum 140F; Minimum -40F. This means that shooters do not need to memorize holdover and can expect their rounds to hit within a specific size target, as seen in our collected results. Okay, well, it does, but it doesnt matter in regards to this article. Elevation Windage Units. Weve got other recommendations in our Best Ballistic Calculator App article. Ha ha ha ha. The faded yellow circle around the black circle is there for variables such as sight to bore distance and bullet weight. I love my $0.26/rd 220gr subsonic 300blk loads. Both reloads and 115gr UMC ammo. Perhaps the center of you group is still -inch left of the bullseye. always said was Battle Sight Zero). Well to me this is real funny.I have 2 Ati 300 blackouts & love them.I use 125 grain p.p.u. The black represents your point of aim. are you talking subsonic or supersonic loads? Any standard AR15 lower works with . Macll, your post is the beginning of an excellent book the world needs to read. It really depends on the person. And the further out you are from CQB ranges (under 50 meters), the safer you are because this reduces the enemy's effective point-blank range. Increased optic height + X95's height over bore do stretch the overall POI about 2.5 - 4" apart compared to standard 1/3rd co-witness optic height. Iron sights? Want your own full scale target? The Army made a move to meters I guess to make it easier to communicate with our NATO allies and better coordinate equipment and gear. 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