And that was pivotal in bringing me to a saving relationship with Jesus. Its Gods job to judge them, and those who were false teachers will be judged all the more sternly. God is good and God does good, but bad things do happen to good people. International preacher, speaker and author Christine Caine recently revealed that she had been diagnosed with cancer. We did a lot of hard work before we got married, which has meant a lot less friction, because all those big conversations about purpose, travelling, doing whatever Jesus called us to do, family life and how that would look were done before we got married. Now lets flip that around and look at it from our perspective. When I tore my ACL while downhill skiing, the pain was excruciating, but nothing like the physical therapy afterward. was the author of this article abused as a child and had Jesus heal their heart? We cant save anyone, we present the unadulterated Gospels, we present Jesus as the only way to The Father, the only way to salvation. Christine Caine treats the bible in thissermonin a similar wayhow a clairvoyant will speak vague things into a persons life as though they are predicting a persons fate/destiny. The scripture tells us that we ought to have in mind the best interests of both the flock and the false teachers. 14And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light. That said, taking the gender issue away (just for second), the confusion persists in this idea that those who are unmarried cannot minister. You have something against the Passion Conference too..Wowww! As I started to serve in youth ministry in my mid-20s, I realized I was going to have to deal with the darkness in my own life before I could shed light on anybody else's. God knows who the wolves are. Its taken her a lifetime, but world-travelling preacher, author and rescuer of trafficking victims, Christine Caine, is finally free from shame. (1 John 1:6-7). Christ said, They will know you by your love for one another., not differences. Those who refuse to respond to biblical correction are proving themselves to be devoid of the Spirit and taking orders from another master (Jude 1:19). It's taken her a lifetime, but world-travelling preacher, author and rescuer of trafficking victims, Christine Caine, is finally free from shame. I wrote the last chapters during the first three months of lockdown. The reason is obvious. A conversation about her marriage to pastor Francis Chan and their urban ministry in San Francisco. Am I acting like this? You seem to have sincere concerns, so what does anonymously posting about them online do? Deuteronomy 18: 10,11,12 Wow. When we as Christians criticize each other we in public settings we become a stumbling block for the lost and a weapon of the enemy.. Many of the people you are tearing down are Gods people and are in the faith, running the race.. Joel Osteen & Oprah partners Joel promotes her LIFECLASS IAM Little Gods doctorine. This is strictly how a person who is not qualified, is handling scripture. . Im helping girls in the A21 transition homes who have been brutally abused and raped and are so shame-filled, helping them find their identity in Christ and stand on their own two feet, she told Hope 103.2, [but] Ive seen some of those same shame struggles in some of the most successful women, that battle with the shame of trying to balance life, thinking Im at the office too much and Im not the mother or wife I could be or girls that are in their mid 30s or 40s and are single and struggling with shame over that. 40.2K followers. Christine Caine: Unleashing Your Life. Word of Faith is what Gods Word is!! I have felt my fervor for studying and deepening my walk with the Lord be VERY attacked by your making a similar comment. Your talent will open the door but only your character can keep you there. I do NOT comment on hearsay, other peoples experiences, other peoples commentary or who heard about who said what to who when. Christine Caineusurps male authority and rebels against the clear word of the Bible Do you think theres a lack of urgency in Western Christianity, because were too comfortable? How is what you are doing here promoting the gospel of truth? The key issue is how we respond to correction. So its more about our faith levels than our ability is that right? "Chris, you have cancer." Not quite the words I was expecting to hear when I landed in Sydney, Australia, for our annual Hillsong conference on June 27 this year. Listen as they unp. I used to come on sites like this and tear down women like Joyce Meyer and Christine Caine, much like you do. It comes across as VERY condescending, haughty, and insulting, as if you are laughing at someone who is too stupid to go elsewhere. What Christ? You have to make that decision. ~ Christine Caine. . Its a story that hasnt been easy to share. Caine took to her blog on Tuesday to share that during the span of a week, she had gone from having a sore throat to being diagnosed with four separate throat conditions, including stage 1 of thyroid cancer. In addition, Christine Caine endorses practice of pagan/witchcraft as seen here in Battersons Circle Making book blurb, 2. Her work is a testimony of the . Shame eats away at the core of who we are. In no way was I attacking anyone, if it came across like that, then I apologize, that was not the intent. 3:5-9). If u cant speak life. Here she is twisting a scripture that warns against false teachers, that is actually rebuking those who warn against false teachers something the false teachers often do. This silly arguement is what pro-female pastors (Christine Caine, Joyce Meyer, etc.) Her mother's name was listed as "Panagiota." Her father's name was listed as "Unknown" - one word with seven letters numbed her. Lets get people into the boat and stop fighting amongst one another. Thank you, Amy, for cleaning up that mess. I needed to see this. Or when Ive pointed something on their website that was completely false, the usual response? by Christine Caine is available now, To hear the full interview listen to Premier Christian Radio at 8pm on 3 July or download The Profile podcast, The agnostic journalist Elle Hardy has been investigating how Pentecostalism is taking over the world. I am willing to bet you do NOT personally know the people you talk about on this site. 23 Therefore is the kingdom of heaven likened unto a certain king, which would take account of his servants. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); 1 Billy Graham Parkway, Charlotte, NC 28201 Who will replace retiring Rick Warren at Saddlebacks Helm? It also applies to those Christians that we would be willing to extend the hand of fellowship to outside of our church. 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I was at one of her events this weekend and I quote from her message if you are called to be married, you are called to follow. Put out your little warning marker if you need to when you find someone is acting falsely. He takes the trials and tests and turns them into a testimony.', and 'Nothing about my birth - or yours - was random or accidental. Its sad and disappointing that this site calls for us to throw the baby out with the bathwater and ignore Christines call for us to keep winning souls for Christ. (Romans 16:17-18) Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. springs without water, and mists driven by a storm, for whom the black darkness has been reserved (2 Pet. Christians publicly label entire groups of people, make assumptions about political affiliations, and vilify entire groups rather than seeking to lovingly understand and correct. 2022 by Berean Research. You are not confronting directly, and you know it. People are too busy being judges more than preaching the Bible. (?) So, I guess Queen Esther is in hell? CT's weekly newsletter highlighting the voices of women writers. My life was as far away from God at that point as you could imagine [but] I went into this seminar, and this dude speaks the gospel in a way that was just so profound to me. I know because the simple fact that you believe Where did you meet? We must be careful not to imply through our associations affirmation of false teachers. I was sexually abused by several men in my life at a very young age. God does not want shepherds to be pugnacious and walking around all the time with a theological chip on their shoulder. Faith? We need to be careful not to underestimate how important our response to correction is. What shall we do if we see a sister following these false teachers? Priscilla and Aquila came alongside Apollos and explained to him the way of God more accurately (Acts 18:26). You meaning taking the word for WHAT IT IS and SPEAKING AND FOLLOWING IT BY FAITH!!?? When you're first abused, you're filled with shame about what is happening to you. Calling out error in the body is not pride. Praise Jesus'. Christine Caine is a member-leader in a doctrinally heretical word-faith church. You may see that as liberal-feminism or call me a heretic, but I see that as the Christ in me touching the heart of someone who had lost his way. Among these are Hymenaeus and Alexander, whom I have delivered over to Satan, so that they may be taught not to blaspheme (1 Tim. Peters bad behavior in this situation had a teaching function, and so Paul says that he had to oppose him to his face and in the presence of all (Gal. 22 Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven. 13 And if so be that he find it, verily I say unto you, he rejoiceth more of that sheep, than of the ninety and nine which went not astray. It was unarguably one of the "busiest and biggest seasons" of her life but Caine notes that she held on to faith during the entire process because she had no other resource. Paul commands Titus and the believers in Crete to distance themselves from false teachers, As for a person who stirs up division, after warning him once and then twice, have nothing more to do with him (Titus 3:10). That is the CLEAR difference. The act of circle marking is occult in nature period. Breaking fellowship might seem a hard thing to do, but remember, if a sister persists in her sin or wont hear you after giving them the scriptures, that means theyhave already broken fellowship with Jesus. Let God judge, not these people who protest about these awesome people bringing tons of people to Christ. I ask these questions in curiosity as Im truly baffled by the material I find here and all in the name of the same Christ that I follow.. 14 Even so it is not the will of your Father which is in heaven, that one of these little ones should perish. 2. If they persist despite the warnings and either dont have a husband to oversee them, have no proper oversight from a husband who has abdicated his duty, or who just are or are married to a discernment klutz, then various scriptures say either to admonish them strongly a third time and/or to break fellowship. Our western culture and the western church has become so syncretized with New Age animism that many Christians cant tell the difference. At one point, 24 years ago, holding a toilet brush, I laughed out loud and thought, Wow, this is not what I thought ministry would look like. When you first start being abused you think that what is happening to you is shameful and wrong, but when it happens repeatedly over a long period of time and no-one intervenes, you begin to think theres something wrong with you. Kenyon (18671948) is usually given credit as the originator of Word of Faith teaching. Maybe you should try reading the word again. What about Ruth? So thats why I made this book not about abuse, but about people at all levels of society who have struggled with different forms of shame. Once she did so, she became an upstoppable force. 2:24-25). Rising from the Ashes of Abuse: Christine Caine & Jennifer Clinger - Jesus Calling Podcast Episode 68. When you are calling names, questioning the faith of, or making assumptions about a person, you ARE making it personal. We were diligent churchgoers, but it seemed to be more about our culture rather than a focus on a personal relationship with Jesus. Bob bless! I had to really get to a place where I felt Id made good headway in living a shame-free life, to be able to put the stuff that Ive learnt in writing. Jesus. Yet hers is no pretty, polished story, and the frankness with which she addresses her own shortcomings, doubts and fears makes it, and her exhortation to keep chasing after the kingdom of God, even more compelling. For all others, we must be clear about our rejection of their dangerous teaching. Let me ask you, are Cain and Meyer repentant? God uses different people to reach the lost because every lost person is different. l suppose you believe judging others is wrong correct? The first three points more or less presuppose the context of a local congregation. Please show us where we have been prideful. A follower of Jesus? Im truly confused and wondering. Watch on. The key word: DIRECTLY. Marrying and having babies was supposed to be my highest aspiration in life. 19 Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven. I have no idea who it is that wrote this but you are a mess. The speaker began to define abuse as "something that endangers a child physically or psychologically through neglect or emotional, physical or sexual mistreatment.". "There is something about walking through the valley of the shadow of death with Jesus: You come out knowing Jesus," says Caine. What should our motive be in bringing confrontation? I pray against the pride that is here. An emotional empty garbage bag called Churchianity, where the Caines, Hybels, Moores if this world deposit their lies. You should be afraid to follow a wolf, its spiritually lethal, and if you read your bible it says to be aware of those spreading error and twisting scripture. 4. It was a fantastic interview from a man who showed he was searching for truth and was willing to change. What do we know really? His grace would be sufficient for me," says Caine. I dont think I ever felt I could write it before now, because its the biggest thing that Ive had to struggle with throughout my whole life and my Christian life, she said. I want to share my life, not a filtered life., In both her writing and speaking, no topic is off-limits whether it is the sexual abuse she suffered as a child, finding out that she was adopted in her 30s, battling thyroid cancer in her 40s, or the panic attacks that she started to experience in her 50s. Women are not meant to be in these positions. If the message they are preaching are not the message of the True Gospel of Jesus Christ, they are not preaching truth and therefore are not bound by the rules for taking aside someone in the church. Get encouraging stories and messages from Billy Graham delivered to your inbox every weekend. I think we have to be careful here. The word says in the end times the ignorant will not be able to understand or see the miracles and the signs and wonders that the Lord is doing because they have been blinded to it. His Greek Orthodox family live in poverty in Australia where they immigrated. 3For the time will come when men will not tolerate sound doctrine, but with itching ears they will gather around themselves teachers to suit their own desires. I believe you have keyboard courage. When the bestselling author, internationally acclaimed speaker and leader of multiple international organisations appears on our morning Zoom call, she is straight off the treadmill, laughing and apologising for her appearance in a sorry-not-sorry way that epitomises her no-nonsense attitude. That is the CLEAR difference. There are soooo many books that have women leaders in them. "I had a thyroidectomy last Tuesday. When it happens over a long period of time, you then begin to think it's happening because of who you are. In conclusion, whats the point of confronting false teachers? If he is that kind of guy, then theres a real question about his fitness for ministry. 24 And when he had begun to reckon, one was brought unto him, which owed him ten thousand talents. A friend told me that there was an evangelist from England, a Cypriot Greek called J. John. But employ the wrong application. 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