Skip to main content. In terms of their overall build, these Coach-variants are nearly identical, but slightly lighter than their field equivalents. There are over 100 parts in an 1897 and something is always breaking. Its small, its shockproof, and features the new Motion Sensor Technology which immediately turns the sight on after detecting any movement. Transitioning trigger to trigger on the Coach Gun felt light years ahead of racking the 870s pump between shots. And yes, I do mean guns that I own. When I took another look at the pictures of my targets, the differential between the left and right barrels really wasnt that much. That being said, I did find one product which gives Stoeger a run for their money: Mossbergs Maverick HS12 Thunder Ranch Over/Under shotgun. More Guns. The short-barreled, side-by-side coach gun was the firearm of choice for lawmen across the Old West and its compact dimensions made it perfect for stagecoach guards. I want both barrel boom, me pull both triggers, . My dad was better with the SxS than I was, he could actually break some clays. I had one like that on a 12 ga a few years ago. Broken down, it will fit in a backpack. Gun Test: 1878 Hartford Coach Gun 12-Gauge Double-Barreled Shotgun With lingering thoughts of Christmas, home and family as they went about their routine chores, the Yanks were caught by surprise when Forrest mounted his attack. It is death on black birds. On paper, the Stoeger M3000 seems like the perfect affordable semi-auto duck hunting shotgun. The easiest way to disable the safety is not to modify the pin that operates it. I like your review. Im ready for the ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Coach guns are ingrained in American culture, and Im pumped to see them make a comeback. I have used it for jump shooting ducks with 3" steel shells and killed many birds with it, including doubles on wood ducks. Ergonomics * * * * I had to choose the gauge (I went with 12 gauge as that is what most use at matches), finish (blued, stainless, or nickel I picked blued), single or double trigger (I chose double based on advice from others), and standard or Supreme model (I went with the Supreme because it has screw-in choke tubes and a thicker recoil pad). It is a simple gun. I know, I know: most side-by-sides break down the same way. The top latch lever even works under the cocked hammer to allow it to open the action. I can put it under the seat of my Honda Ruckus, in a case, and head to the woods. Have LTCH to verify . The matte nickel action and barrels contrast nicely with the dark and figured walnut. I think it is an excellent value for the money. Contact them either via email or private message. The term coach gun is a generic description for a side-by-side shotgun with an 18-20 inch barrel. Regards, Yeah, I wouldnt dream of trying to finish it off already mounted on a nicely finished piece of wood. Most of the online advice recommended using a Dremel tool for cutting the spring, but I couldnt find mine due to a recent move (its since been located). by Nazgul Thu Nov 22, 2012 4:22 pm, Post And thats when it happened. So I started looking at whether a coach gun would be a better option. . Shortening the lock impeller spring The spring around the lock impeller is stiff and requires a lot of pressure on the lever to break it open. As impressive as Leupold and EOTech are, I cant help but love Bushnell; the established American sporting goods company produces some of the best and affordable sights in the industry. They also tell you to insure the gun. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. I may not be the brightest bulb in the pack, but I knew pretty quick that my new shotgun was going to need some work. I thought I had the Coach Gun nailed for a major weakness, as the two barrels were not exactly, totally, 100-percent regulated to the same pinpoint of aim. 20,985. A good value that has a lot more going for it than you might think by just looking at it. I shoot a Stoeger coach gun, hammerless. It handles and points wonderfully. Also a potent home security gun, the Coach Gun is chambered for 2-3/4" and 3" shells. I had trouble with it firing both barrels simultaneously..sometimes. by Bridger Thu Nov 22, 2012 1:05 am, Post by all accounts they seem reasonbaly good for the price, though I'm not sure how you're looking to use these things or if you need something pricier. All of these coach guns are ideal for Cowboy Action shooting and home defense. Nor, as it turned out, underwear, T-shirts or a pair of socks. As such, they have a remarkable collection of over/unders and side by sides in addition to their pump action and semi-automatics. Simultaneously, this affiliation has enabled Stoeger to thrive by providing them with state-of-the-art technology, better business management, and improved techniques. When it comes to tactical flashlights, its hard to beat Streamlight; this renowned company has two exceptional devices that are perfect for Stoegers Double Defense. I also bought some 12 to 20 GA converters in stainless steel for flexibility. Good writeup. Stevens S1200 Shotgun Review: Terminated, Outdated, & Celebrated. The combination of the ported barrels, which reduces muzzle climb, and those green fiber-optic sights, which enable easy target acquisition in all light conditions, make this is one hell of a tactical shotgun. Dad and I both love that rig. hes a trip. I have reamed the forcing cones on every shotgun I own.except my L.C. Stoeger coach guns are fine for the money and are Joe Biden-approved. Some owners reported patterns that differed as much as three feet between the barrels. by Chuck 100 yd Wed Nov 21, 2012 6:12 pm, Post Now look at the Stoeger. If take the stock off a Parker or Fox shotgun from 100 years ago, and you look at the lockwork, they look a helluva lot better than what we see in your photo above. In resopnes to Doug Preston; Unfortunatly the single trigger Stoeger Coach Guns seem to be problematic. by mergus Sat Nov 24, 2012 1:00 pm, Post Ideal for home security or competitive shooting, each potent-punching shotgun features an A-grade satin walnut stock and forend, blued receiver, and 20" barrel. I sent it off to Kiowa Nate Jones and got his action job, and it is a very sweet gun. The handsome and affordable single- and double-trigger scatterguns pack a potent punch. Find a good quality, long barreled double for $350 or less and cut it off to 22 inches. Quality steel receiver & barrel. But even after picking the Supreme model, I still had to make a few more decisions. In Stock. Nice. He did send me a new spring. Kept putting the extractor in and out until I had no interference. This model is equipped with standard extractors (not ejectors) which push shells out of the chamber by about 1/4 when fully open. Did you or someone else flare the chamber mouths? Stoeger Model M3500 12 Gauge Shotgun with Realtree Max-5 Stock and 28-Inch Barrel. by Rusty Wed Nov 21, 2012 7:54 pm, Post Eventually, it got to where it would just fall open when I pressed the lever, which is what I was looking for. What should I do if there is a problem with the function of my Stoeger Industries firearm? $4.69. The falling P/E ratio is the result of future earnings increasing relative to the current price and suggests bullishness in the company by analysts. The Stoeger Coach gun is available in the diminutive 410 gauge and makes a perfect companion to a large gauge Stoeger shotgun. Actually hard to open. One is a workhorse and the other is a deep refined "wall. There are several manufactures of coach guns, but I decided to go with the 20-inch barrel Stoeger Coach Gun because that was the brand used by most of those I was seeing at competitions. The contemporary (not 19th century original antiques with Damascus or twist barrels) The photo on the left is my chamber mouth as it currently exists and the photo on the right is the chamber mouth of a champion shooters coach gun. The next challenge was the safety. Not even an Italian-American-Brazilian firearms conglomerate canchange the laws of physics. Awesome. You have to go through the same routine with any of the black powder Italian clones, i.e., polishing all of the mating surfaces, particularly the surfaces that interface the hammer. Lastly, I did a lot of surgery to the buttstock, removing a lot more wood; fluting the comb, Slimming the wrist, and installing a brown recoil pad it is about as close to an 1878 Colt as i can make it, without changing out parts.. by 1894c Thu Nov 22, 2012 12:27 am, Post There are three primary shotguns used in cowboy action shooting: the Model 1897 with a 20-inch barrel, the Model 1887 lever action shotgun, or a side-by-side coach gun. The barrels are even stamped "Coach Gun." The barrels are 18.5 inches, so street legal. P3000 Freedom Series Defense Pump Shotgun, P3000 Freedom Series Supreme Pump Shotgun, Coach Gun/ Double Defense Manual (237.75 KB). After asking around, the biggest complaint I heard about the Coach was its out-of-box issues handling cold weather. Estimated New and Used Values for a Stoeger Industries Coach Gun Values are based on a basic model with no options or colors. No sir. I asked around, and broken barrel lugs are a very common problem, along with split stocks. Besides for ditching the A-grade satin walnut finish for black matte, Stoeger gave outfitted their new Double Defense with 20 ported barrels, single triggers, fixed IC, To take advantage of the top rail, youll most likely want to attach some type of reflex or holographic sight. What scope base will fit my Stoeger shotgun? Since I switched to Winchester I have not had that problem. Finicky? The Stoeger Coach Gun is very fast to a follow-up shot. I shot that match using the shotgun pretty much straight out of the box, which turned out to be a mistake. I love rifles. by Nate Kiowa Jones Sun Dec 02, 2012 2:43 pm, Post Posted: 6/8/2013 7:18:57 AM EST [#5] Stoeger, although still relatively unknown, manufactures some of the best budget shotguns on the market, and their line of Coach Guns is something you really gotta check out. by pshort Wed Nov 21, 2012 6:12 pm, Post Its great for backyard clay shooting, and plenty of Cowboy Action shooters have picked one up to use in their game. In Forrest's first major cavalry victory, he divided his men into three groups. It is a Stoeger Coach Gun painted black. This piece isnt intended to be a gun review in the classic sense of a review, especially since there is already a Stoeger Coach Gun review on TTAG. by JerryB Fri Nov 23, 2012 10:09 pm, Post Invector .555 Constriction $74.00 Not Yet Rated Code: IC0011 In Stock Add to Cart Stoeger Side by Side Firing Pin, All Gauges $5.00 3 Code: 32352 In Stock Add to Cart Stoeger Side by Side Firing Pin Spring, All Gauges $5.00 6 Code: 32040 In Stock Add to Cart Indian Creek Black Diamond Strike Turkey Choke, Browning/Winchester 20ga. Item Number: 31800. Caliber: .12 gauge I got away from reloading shotgun shells because of problems with them feeding after 3 reloads through my automatics and factory new WERE cheap @ Bass Pro / Cabelas . Next time you take Barak the pansie shootin a shotgun get him on the correct end of things. I ended up adjusting the spring and impeller at the same time because the impeller is hard to remove and reinstall with the full-length spring. Ive NEVER had trouble with the pump, and Ive been using it for close to 40 years. It's great for backyard clay shooting, and plenty of Cowboy Action shooters have picked one up to use in their game. $779.00 $699.99. I have owned both a Stoeger IGA Uplander, and a USSR made Baikal and they were both very reliable guns that I would not hesitate to recommend. Stoeger Coach Gun, $310 Our first impression of the Brazilian-made Stoeger Coach Gun was: That's more like it. I personally prefer the 26" barrel for a double duty bird gun but the 20" coach sounds perfect for strictly home defense. Brass bead front sight. If you shoot buckshot loads labeled Express Magnum out of a 12 gauge shotgun that weighs slightly more than a bag of sugar (6.5 pounds), you can expect a significant ballistic noogie. Whats a tactical shotgun without accessories? Left barrel Modified choke I bought new Stoeger single trigger 12 ga. last summer when I started CAS. This is a high-class place so act respectable. I broke out my Do-All trap machine, and got a box of clay targets. While it may seem foolish to some, one of my favorite aspects of the TTN is its ability to be transformed from a bulbous 'clunker', into a very handsome, shootable gun.. Shaping the stock, within the parameters of the available wood was a pleasant challenge, as was the minor action wotk I performed on it.. The Cimarron gun is the old TTN, just a new importer. I'm thinking a hammerless would be the best for her less to do and less to go wrong. Simply remove the butt stock and remove the small pin the is connected to the trigger block. I soon realized my heirloom shotgun wasnt competition-friendly for several reasons, including shell ejection issues and a barrel that was too long. Most work well from the factory, some just seem to be un-repairable for some reason. Simply remove the butt stock and remove the small pin the is connected to the trigger block. Killed two at 40 yards and they never moved out of their tracks. Purchased the gun for bear and wolf protection for our cabin land in Northern Saskatchewan. It was very tight. Chrome lined barrels choked SKEET & SKEET. Add to My Saved Parts. . A STOEGER COACH GUN shotgun is currently worth an average price of $534.39 new and $504.04 used . Commentdocument.getElementById("comment").setAttribute( "id", "a73fba975c4e1294af929a4bc20a5919" );document.getElementById("b41c6d486d").setAttribute( "id", "comment" ); As part of the multinational firearms conglomerate, The Maryland-based weapons manufacturer specializes in traditionally-build shotguns with up-to-date aesthetics and operation. There are cheaper guns. Gun tinkering is probably a more adept description for my activities. Its easy to load and shoot and would be a good first shotgun for someone who doesnt know much about loading and operating a pump or semi-auto. Get a good quality recoil pad (I would recommend a Pachmayr Magnum Trap pad for this application) and put it on the gun. Am I missing something, or is it just that last 5% like all real craftsmanship? STOEGER 12-Gauge Coach Gun Out of stock Used Good Sold Out Let us help you find the best options for Hunting Gear Get ready for your next hunting trip with Guns.com. If you can afford it ($600), you cant go wrong with the legendary Leupold and their DeltaPoint Pro red dot reflex sight. I still have those two old Stevens I got back in the Shooters World heyday. I thank you, because I learned new stuff today. Its a fun little no frills gun that really packs a bang behind it. In the late 1960s to early 70s Rossi of Brazil made a similar shotgun with external hammers. The current trailing twelve months (ttm) P/E ratio is 17.753 and the forward P/E ratio is 13.79. These double-barreled guns would have represented the state-of-the-art in shotgun technology in 1885. With the coach gun, I wasnt so much shooting doubles as I was wiling them to turn into little clouds of clay dust. The Stoeger Coach Gun was the top choice for enthusiasts looking for a side-by-side shotgun in 2019, according to volume of purchases made through the services of Gunbroker.com. But handguns are very reliable. Stoeger cannot/will not repair broken lugs, so they replace the entire gun. I hit so many clay birds that I reconfigured the trap, and begin flinging doubles. Because of its shortened barrel and intuitive controls, the Stoeger promises fast reloads and even faster pointing and swing. I have rid my garden of groundhogs with #5 turkey loads. I have a Stoeger Coach Gun. double-barrel stagecoach shotgun with 20 barrels in 12 or 20 gauge remain highly Just PRIOR TO YOURS. I would lube it and shoot it. Nice review, but one question left unanswered for me: how is the extraction/reloading? I originally took off just enough material to remove the sharp edges of the chamber, which were catching the plastic of the shotshells as I tried to insert them. Whether putting these Stoegers to use in competition, home defense, or various hunting scenarios, the Coach will not disappoint. He has the firing pins and the wrench to change them with. All you have to do is push these hinged parts rearward to cock the hammers. Mine had a little too much wood where it joins the action so I had to relieve it. by Buck Elliott Sat Nov 24, 2012 6:06 pm, Post It still draws curious onlookers, when I slip it out of its travel case.. I had to crack-open the box to verify that it did, indeed, contain a gun. It took a lot of effort to open after firing both barrels, but at least I wasnt breaking it open over my knee like one of the other shooters who also had a new Stoeger. one quibble its bonsai for the tree, instead of bonzai. Heavy, but in a short barrelled coach gun that's not entirely a BAD thing. Once this is understood, the rest is simple for our predicament. They only have so much time in the factory to tune the gun. For that reason, the Coach Gun works great as a reasonable secondary firearm, hunting companion, truck gun, or home defense weapon. "-Thomas Jefferson. If yes reinstall that original spring? Sights: brass bead For only $50 more, the Supremes are equipped with better grip checkering, higher grade walnut stocks, and thicker rubber recoil pads sounds like a great deal to me! Part of the problem is this fact; the Stoeger is a very low cost gun. Looking to buy FTF, a Stoeger Coach gun 12ga, preference is with hammers. (they can also do inner store transfers if need be) Check Bass Pro / Cabelas / Gander Mountain, or any of the LARGER BIG BOX Sporting goods stores. The sawed-off shotgun has been romanticized in hundreds of Hollywood Westerns as the stagecoach guard's weapon of choice, and this one is as handsome as it is affordable. Good gun for the money considering you could spend double or triple on a side by side shotgun. Barrels fall open from their own weight, at the touch of the toplever.. The shotgun features an A-grade finished hardwood stock, a double trigger and brass bead sights. Knowing that many of the faster shooters were using the 1897, I decided that was my first choice. I started out shooting Winchester AA Low Recoil/Low Noise Target Loads, which use 26 grams (~0.9 oz) of #8 shot with an advertised velocity of 980 fps. Pard of mine did much the same work as you accomplished on yours to his and hes had it serving him since 1995 in the game. E.R Amantino Coach 12 Gauge Shotgun. All you have to do it tighten those screws up and youre back to business. Chambered for 2-3/4 and 3-inch shells The gun is simple enough that I think I can fix about any problem that might happen if I can get the parts. My palms are sweating just contemplating it. Sight . by Mescalero Thu Nov 22, 2012 12:19 am, Post We took a bunch of new shotguns to the range for test-fire today prior to shipping to their proud new owners, and one of the shotguns had consistent Fail-to-eject malfunctions from the get-go. For suggestions, collaborations, or requests, contact [emailprotected], We keep our coach gun loaded with 00for two shells we dont have to take a backseat to anyoneand to this day no one fears any firearm more than looking at the business end of a double barrelsimple and reliable, quietly brought to readynone of that racking noise bullsh!tanyone at the bedroom door wont get further, Your email address will not be published. Have fun shooting it and look for another better shotgun if you are going to shoot much. Quantity: Buy now. Although the black-finished walnut stock and polished nickel receiver model is equally sexy and intimidating, I steered clear from its double trigger. $779.00 $699.99. They replaced the gun the first two times. It makes a huge difference. But for the novice or beginner the double-barrel stagecoach DPS has a price to book ratio (ttm) of 3.47 and a price to sales ratio of 1.51. MUCH prefer a hammergun for this purpose since you can have ammo chambered with the hammer down on halfcock (no kids in the house of course). You can also use a honing stone to do this, but I couldnt find mine due to the move (unlike the Dremel, the honing stones are still hiding in a box somewhere the garage). Besides for ditching the A-grade satin walnut finish for black matte, Stoeger gave outfitted their new Double Defense with 20 ported barrels, single triggers, fixed IC chokes, and two Picatinny rails. The Coach Guns stock fits me very well, and because it feels so different from a rifle, its easier for me to not shoot it like a rifle. Its going to be my pack gun/ go every where gun. The essential tools for slicking up a coach gun are a grinder, sandpaper, and polishing compound plus a screwdriver and socket for removing the buttstock. This little critter has the potential to be a fine multi- tasker . The fix is not too difficult if you are reasonably adept with tools. practical for other uses aside from Cowboy Action Shooting: Homeland Security! Getting a good finished appearance is the other 90% of the issue. Rusty, grandson Jerry3 has a Stoger coach gun in 12ga and has not had any trouble with it at all.He used it when we were cowboy shooting trouble free. Even better: the gun felt lively to my shoulder. Ironically, the best thing to ever happen to Stoeger is also the reason why they will never be a household name. If you talk to enough people who own guns you will hear horror stories about every brand. Stoeger Single-Trigger Coach Guns are chambered for 2- and 3-inch shells, in 12- and 20-gauge. 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